Awaken Your True Self: Anja Zibert on Freedom, Forgiveness, and Creating Reality
Who are you really — and what do you want from life? In this powerful conversation, Kellan sits down with Anja Zibert, a former corporate headhunter turned Free Spirit coach, to explore the awakening that transformed her life.
Anya shares her story of collapsing under stress, discovering her empathic gifts, and choosing a path of freedom, playfulness, and truth. Together, they discuss:
- Why self-love and forgiveness are the foundation of transformation.
- How to normalize spiritual awakenings (and not feel “crazy”).
- The power of vision + the first practical steps to create it.
- Why your past doesn’t define you — your present choices do.
- How to make your unique “imprint” in the world.
🔥 Your ultimate life begins when you stop living by old programs and choose to create your own reality.
👉 Connect with Anya: freespirithc.com or on LinkedIn: Anya Zibert, Free Spirit
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Transcript
Who the hell are you and what do you want from me?
Speaker A:And when they open the door.
Speaker B:Welcome to the show.
Speaker B:Tired of the hype about living the dream?
Speaker B:It's time for truth.
Speaker B:This is the place for tools, power and real talk.
Speaker B:So you can create the life you dream and deserve.
Speaker B:Your ultimate life.
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Speaker B:You have infinite power.
Speaker B:Hello and welcome to this episode of your ultimate life.
Speaker B:The podcast, has been going now for years, is dedicated to one thing, helping you to create a life that you love every day.
Speaker B:Purpose, prosperity, joy, and one that's within your control.
Speaker B:You can create it with your choices, with your gifts, with your talents and with your skills.
Speaker B:I have a special guest today, Anya Ziebert.
Speaker B:Did I say that well, yeah, well done.
Speaker A:Well done, Kelly.
Speaker B:All right, so she's here to tell us about her version of this ultimate life, who she is, how she creates it and what she does.
Speaker B:And I don't do intros, so we're just going to dive in and learn about her glorious work Persona and everything as we go.
Speaker B:So, Anya, if someone says, living the ultimate life, what does that mean to you?
Speaker A:What does that mean to me?
Speaker A:Well, I have a baseline that I'm sharing now with people around the world.
Speaker A:So we are multi dimensional beings with limitless power to create our own reality.
Speaker A:And everything starts there.
Speaker A:I decided that I want to create a reality without stress.
Speaker A:I want to have a lot of fun, I want to feel a lot of playfulness, I want to have a lot of playfulness in my, in my life.
Speaker A:I want to, you know, experience a lot of adventures.
Speaker A:I want to be surrounded with people I love and with, you know, enjoy the things that I love.
Speaker A:So basically, completely different life that we were taught that, you know, it's waiting for us when we were, when we were younger and I just decided I don't want to live like they told me to, so I'm creating my own.
Speaker B:So I love that.
Speaker B:One of the things that happens when I or you or any one of a number of people talk about creating life, we use these expansive and energetic words and create your own reality and all this stuff, which sounds so good.
Speaker B:And we say, and we can have that and live that way.
Speaker B:And I'm going to agree with you and I'm also going to acknowledge lots of people hear that and say, yeah, for sure, whatever.
Speaker B:Sounds too weird too.
Speaker B:Woo woo.
Speaker B:I got to pay bills, I got to do this stuff and I got to have a life that's like anything but that.
Speaker B:So let's, let's do some concrete Work for a sec, because I'm not challenging you.
Speaker B:Because we do create our reality, but let's tie it to some on the ground stuff.
Speaker B:So what do you do to go about creating a life that you love?
Speaker B:What things do you do that creates this beauty that you just described?
Speaker A:Yeah, I mean, it's.
Speaker A:It's never only, you know, light and love.
Speaker A:I'm not this, like, new Age guru or whatever that is just, like, praising, you know, like, oh, you have to live like this.
Speaker A:You have to live like this.
Speaker A:No, I mean, we all have our own stories.
Speaker A:We all have past experiences that, you know, that.
Speaker A:That formed us.
Speaker A:And my background in professional way is in recruitment.
Speaker A:I was a headhunter, you know, like a corporate headhunter.
Speaker A: And, yeah, in: Speaker A:I could say, like, awakening started and I could absolutely.
Speaker A:Like, it changed everything for me because I started seeing energies, I started feeling energies, and I saw that people were pushed together just because of money, and I couldn't be part of that anymore.
Speaker A:So then I decided I don't want to be a part of that anymore because nobody can push me.
Speaker A:Even though, like, if I, you know, if I have to say no to.
Speaker A:To good money or whatever, because I believe that I can.
Speaker A:I can be prosperous, I can be wealthy, you know, in alignment with my soul, with.
Speaker A:With my values.
Speaker A:So, yeah, I mean, it's a journey.
Speaker A:It's absolutely a journey.
Speaker A:I left a lot of things behind that are.
Speaker A:Now, new things are coming into my life and I'm, like, rebuilding my life.
Speaker A:But what I do in general, like, every day, I'm not going to say every day, but, you know, a few times per week, I get messages.
Speaker A:Hey, Anya.
Speaker A:You know, I just started feeling like this.
Speaker A:I see things.
Speaker A:I don't know, something happened.
Speaker A:I.
Speaker A:You know, people, they just.
Speaker A:They just come to this point that they think that they're crazy, that they're going crazy.
Speaker A:And I normalize that because it's like, I know how you feel.
Speaker A:I've been there.
Speaker A:I see you.
Speaker A:I've been there.
Speaker A:Whether they are, I don't know, like, you know, in a job 9 to 5, whether they have their own company or they are just like regular people or they are, you know, super wealthy or whatever, but when they are starting this awakening journey, it can get pretty intense, pretty confusing, pretty.
Speaker A:You know, I would say it can be very difficult.
Speaker A:And, yeah, I'm here to support people to create this open space for them, safe space to express themselves, and also to help them upgrade their cv, you know, with extra abilities that they Are awakening.
Speaker B:No, that's fabulous.
Speaker B:When I go back a little bit and ask.
Speaker B:So you had a career.
Speaker B:It could have been an accountant, engineer, lawyer, whatever.
Speaker B:You were a recruiter.
Speaker B:And so you went and found talented people to fill mostly boxes in the sort of corporate world that we all came, we were all socialized in, we were all taught, do a thing.
Speaker B:And in that thing, your position was, I'm going to go find talented people to fill these jobs.
Speaker B: And you said in: Speaker B:Sometimes people have trauma, sometimes they have some extraordinary experience, sometimes some life upheaval.
Speaker B:I don't know.
Speaker B:But when something like what happened that let you or forced you or invited you to no longer ignore those things that had been floating around us all the time, and they are.
Speaker B:We just ignore them.
Speaker B:So what happened to say, wait a minute, I'm going to do something different?
Speaker B:What happened?
Speaker A:Yeah, good question.
Speaker A:You know, this journey is not linear.
Speaker A:Like, it's very difficult sometimes to put all the dots together.
Speaker A:But.
Speaker A:Okay, if I go step back.
Speaker A: It was in: Speaker A:And yeah, it was really intense experience because I didn't know what to expect.
Speaker A:You know, like, I was pretty naive about it.
Speaker A:But what was really interesting when there are a few.
Speaker A:Few stuff, you know, like that that happened then.
Speaker A:But one of the most interesting stuff was when people opened the door and I was like, selling, you know, like this children books and I was from another country and all they all.
Speaker A:They were looking at me like, you know, who the hell are you and what do you want from me?
Speaker A:And when they opened the door, I could feel them.
Speaker A:I could feel.
Speaker A:I could feel the emotions that they were generating.
Speaker A:So basically, if somebody was mad or, you know, I don't know, frustrated or whatever, I could feel that.
Speaker A:It was so intense today.
Speaker A:I know, because I'm an empath.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:But back then I didn't know that.
Speaker A:So basically after.
Speaker A: Yeah, it was: Speaker A:So after that experience, like a month later, my body collapsed.
Speaker A:I didn't understand it, like, you know, rationally I didn't understand it, but my body collapsed.
Speaker A:And now I know because it was just too much of everything.
Speaker A:And it was probably a month later.
Speaker A:Yeah, I was sitting, like next to my laptop and I was editing my MySpace profile.
Speaker A:You know MySpace, I get.
Speaker B:I do remember MySpace, right?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Tom was everyone's friend.
Speaker A:So I was.
Speaker A:I was editing MySpace profile.
Speaker A:And you Know, the main question was, like, what should be my username?
Speaker A:Like, how should I call myself?
Speaker A:And this very, very distinct voice.
Speaker A:I heard this very distinct voice in my head, anya, you are free spirit.
Speaker A:I, again, I had no idea.
Speaker A:What does that mean?
Speaker A:No idea.
Speaker A:But I was like, okay, I'm gonna take it.
Speaker A:That sounds nice.
Speaker A:That sounds cool.
Speaker A:So from that moment on, I was, you know, I'm your free spirit.
Speaker A:But, yeah, little did I know that that was kind of very, you know, like, pivotal point in my life, because everything from that point on, yeah, started.
Speaker A:Started changing or, like, kind of forming the story around it.
Speaker A: So in: Speaker A:And of course, I saw myself dying.
Speaker A:I saw, you know, myself, like, in energy form and stuff like that.
Speaker A:And when you experience stuff, you know, when you experience this, you cannot forget about it.
Speaker A:Like, it's embedded in you.
Speaker A:You.
Speaker A:You change.
Speaker A:Even though if you don't understand what.
Speaker A:What is happening.
Speaker A:But, yeah, after that experience, I would say in next 14 days, pretty, pretty weird stuff started happening at my job as well.
Speaker A:You know, people were, like, coming to interview because, you know, I held interviews.
Speaker A:Of course, mostly it was C level.
Speaker A:So, like line managers or CEOs.
Speaker A:And, yeah, like, people, when they came for an interview, they.
Speaker A:They just started saying the weirdest stuff, like, hey, you came here to planet Earth and you brought this energy, like, this is your mission.
Speaker A:And I was like, what the hell are you saying?
Speaker A:Like, I had no idea, seriously.
Speaker A:So, I mean, I thought that I'm going crazy.
Speaker A:Like, you know, your.
Speaker A:Your world starts falling apart.
Speaker A:I wasn't really looking for explanation because I was too afraid for my.
Speaker A:For my own survival.
Speaker A:And my body started reacting.
Speaker A:I. I had some health issues as well.
Speaker A:Yeah, my personal life started falling apart.
Speaker A:Then later, I got separated as well, moved away from family.
Speaker A:And yeah, a lot of very, very.
Speaker B:You said something way early in the beginning about normalizing this.
Speaker B:So what I'm hearing you say is we have to tie these two threads together, because when a person has a job and they're in the sort of machine, and then you start getting the feeling that we're more than that.
Speaker B:We're these infinite beings and we are having a physical experience.
Speaker B:We're here and stuff invades all the time.
Speaker B:And sometimes we're open, and mostly we're not.
Speaker B:And when that starts to happen, it looks different for each person.
Speaker B:And like you, I imagine nearly everyone has this fear.
Speaker B:I'm weird.
Speaker B:Something's Wrong.
Speaker B:I'm not supposed to be feeling like this or hearing this or seeing this.
Speaker B:Hello, you know, I'm a candidate for the insane asylum or whatever.
Speaker B:And so normalizing it is saying, I think this is okay.
Speaker B:You're not weird.
Speaker B:That's part one.
Speaker B:Part two.
Speaker B:Maybe you need to get curious about what this means, because maybe it means you're bursting out of the little straight jacket you've sandwiched yourself into.
Speaker B:You know, and it's okay to ask those questions, what does it mean?
Speaker B:And then, what should I do with it?
Speaker B:Does that make sense?
Speaker B:Is that what happens?
Speaker A:Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker A:And I. I really discovered, you know, that for me, it's really important to have this connection to my heart because all the answers.
Speaker A:I know it sounds really, you know, like, fluffy or whatever, but it's.
Speaker A:It's really this connection to your heart.
Speaker A:Like, all the answers about your wishes, like, who are you?
Speaker A:Are in your heart.
Speaker A:And now when I'm talking to people, when I start talking to people, I ask them, like, if.
Speaker A:If you ask somebody, hey, what do you want?
Speaker A:Your mind will give you an answer.
Speaker A:But if I bring them to this space, you know, like this expanded space where they have everything, everything available, and they have absolutely no limitations there, and they feel relaxed.
Speaker A:They feel, you know, carefree.
Speaker A:And I ask them from that space, what do you want?
Speaker A:Where do you want to be?
Speaker A:What do you want to do?
Speaker A:It's magical, Kellen.
Speaker A:It's magical because then they give the answers and then it's like, oh, my God.
Speaker A:You know, like when they get out of meditation, say, oh, my God.
Speaker A:I cannot believe that I just saw that.
Speaker A:I cannot believe that I just felt that.
Speaker A:I was like, yes, this is your essence.
Speaker A:This is your truth.
Speaker A:This is what your soul is showing you.
Speaker A:So if you want to align with this vision or whatever, it's possible.
Speaker A:And I can help you.
Speaker A:I can help you with contacts, I can help you with opportunities.
Speaker A:I'm not guarantee anything because, you know, they're your choices.
Speaker A:But if you saw something, that means that it already exists in.
Speaker A:In.
Speaker A:On some level, in some reality, you know, in some dimension.
Speaker A:And it's really.
Speaker A:Now, for me, yeah, it's normal because I experienced it and I helped so many people do it.
Speaker A:And it's.
Speaker A:It's really simple, actually.
Speaker B:So let's talk about the do it part.
Speaker B:Let's talk about the do it.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:So someone has these experiences, whether they've come to you first or after something and they're still caught up in the Matrix, we'll use that word.
Speaker B:Just because everybody kind of knows what that is, the machinery.
Speaker B:And then they see this beautiful vision.
Speaker B:And if I were to describe it, it would be, this is the soul essence showing you another multi dimensional possibility that exists somewhere in reality already.
Speaker B:You have blinded it out or blocked it out up to now.
Speaker B:Not because you're bad, but because of socialization and conditions and beliefs and all the rest.
Speaker B:Okay, then there's this whole question of, yeah, that was so beautiful.
Speaker B:I'm so excited.
Speaker B:And we talk about your ultimate life.
Speaker B:And I use the words purpose, prosperity and joy, but people are gonna use whatever words they want.
Speaker B:Then there's this big question about, okay, how do I do that?
Speaker B:Because here I am in the box and I've opened the door or looked out the window or both, and I can see this, but I have no idea.
Speaker B:I mean, you've told me that it's okay to feel this.
Speaker B:Oh, yay.
Speaker B:But now what?
Speaker B:I'm gonna go back home, wherever that is, down the block or around the world and be back in the box with this nagging vision that I've seen that was so powerful.
Speaker B:Not nagging, but inspiring.
Speaker B:What do you have?
Speaker B:How do you help people start to first own, continue to own that that's a real possibility, and then figure out what's next?
Speaker B:What's the first step?
Speaker B:Because I don't, you know, most people don't just jump off the cliff and build their parachute on the way down.
Speaker B:You know, they gotta, they gotta do some concrete thing.
Speaker B:So where do we go from there?
Speaker A:Yeah, good.
Speaker A:Very good question.
Speaker A:So first start is awareness, like you said.
Speaker A:Oh, they got something, you know, like this vision or whatever.
Speaker A:This is awareness.
Speaker A:This is expanded awareness.
Speaker A:What is possible?
Speaker A:So when we expand our awareness, when we expand our consciousness, we expand also our, you know, field of possibilities, of opportunities and what people need to do.
Speaker A:Of course there's all, everything is followed by action steps.
Speaker A:But first of all, they need to know that this is possible.
Speaker A:Yeah, this is like the first step.
Speaker A:And then it's like, okay, what can I do today?
Speaker A:What, what can I do today that is aligned with who I am, with what I like to do?
Speaker A:And it will bring me one step closer to this vision is that, you know, like contact somebody or write something, express yourself.
Speaker A:It's, it's all about us.
Speaker A:So I'm trying to tell people that it's not about outside yet, especially now.
Speaker A:Now I came to the point where I'm like, oh my God, I have enough of information.
Speaker A:It's, you know, like, we have enough of Information.
Speaker A:Now it's about walking the talk.
Speaker A:Because you can go to another psychedelic, you know, session, you can go to another retreat, you think you can go to another, to take another course or whatever, but you don't need that.
Speaker A:All you have to do is remember who you really are, but you have to let that happen.
Speaker A:So to face your shadows, you know, this is very, very essential.
Speaker A:I would start there because awakening, it's not fun, but I try to keep it on playful level.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So whenever somebody is like going, you know, crazy or like really, really scared or overwhelmed with everything.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Like, you know, I reframe few stuff like what is happening.
Speaker A:Hey, let's, let's see it from different perspective.
Speaker A:Let's see, you know, this perception because, you know, our perception creates our reality.
Speaker A:So I, I, I help people to reframe things.
Speaker A:And, and yeah, it's, it can, it definitely can help.
Speaker A:And it's, it's so much easier to go through this process.
Speaker B:All right, so you start with.
Speaker B:Yeah, go ahead.
Speaker B:When you don't hold.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:When you don't hold this, this perception that somebody told you, you know, like, oh, yeah, it's like that.
Speaker A:It's like that.
Speaker A:No, because whatever perception you have, that kind of reality, you will create.
Speaker A:And I, I don't want to tell people like, you know, what to see or what to, what to feel, but I just give them space so they can, they can do it their own way.
Speaker B:So when you see that beauty and a person does, immediately juxtaposed against that are the old stories and beliefs and barriers and maybe naysayers around them.
Speaker B:Maybe people say, who are you to think you can be creative or go create some meaning in the world or do whatever it is?
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:And so it seems like what you're saying is a really important part of the process is how do I set this up?
Speaker B:Because you said two things.
Speaker B:One, it's not a linear journey.
Speaker B:It's not a straight line.
Speaker B:It goes all over the place.
Speaker B:And the second thing is you have to take the first concrete step.
Speaker B:Maybe it's talk to somebody.
Speaker B:Maybe it's dare for the first time to express a vision that you have of alleviating, creating, suffering in the world or helping build this thing or whatever it is.
Speaker B:And if we go with the premise that there's no limits, there's still always a first step.
Speaker B:And there's still always this resistance that comes from the before.
Speaker B:Whether it's shadow work or whether it's lack of support or whether it's old stories of not Good enough fears and all the rest.
Speaker B:So what is the.
Speaker B:What is the process to help me take the first and then the second and the third step to sort of stay on this circuitous, wiggly path to get there?
Speaker A:Yeah, okay.
Speaker A:I can just share, you know, example.
Speaker A:So when I. Yeah, when I.
Speaker A:When I work with people and, you know, I have different kind of individuals that I was working with.
Speaker A:So, for example, somebody just, yeah.
Speaker A:Wanted to become a speaker or, oh, my God, I see myself.
Speaker A:I want to start my own, I don't know, spiritual.
Speaker A:Spiritual company.
Speaker A:Like spiritual entrepreneurship or something like that.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So basically now they are in this 9 to 5 job.
Speaker A:And first of all, they need to know, okay, like what?
Speaker A:Like, can I leave this job?
Speaker A:Will I be safe?
Speaker A:You know, I never, never burn down in everything and just, yeah, just jump off the cliff because you're not doing yourself a favor.
Speaker A:You're not doing your nervous system a favor.
Speaker A:There's always action step, but it's about bridging things.
Speaker A:So I don't call myself or people.
Speaker A:Sometimes people call me coach, but I'm not a coach because maybe, you know, maybe I'm a mentor, coach, guide or something like that.
Speaker A:But the thing is, I stick with them.
Speaker A:Like, I'm next to them when they're going through this process.
Speaker A:I open my world to them.
Speaker A:I connect them with people.
Speaker A:Like, hey, if you want to become a speaker, contact this person.
Speaker A:Like, he or she, you know, will expand even more awareness and give you some opportunities.
Speaker A:Are you ready to do that?
Speaker A:No.
Speaker A:Why not?
Speaker A:Well, I don't know what he will think.
Speaker A:Well, okay, that's your decision.
Speaker A:But now you have the option.
Speaker A:Yeah, you have the option.
Speaker A:Or, for example, I want to have my own podcast.
Speaker A:Okay, so what is.
Speaker A:Where is your fear?
Speaker A:Yeah, I don't know if I'm good on camera or whatever.
Speaker A:You know, it's like, okay, send me the video.
Speaker A:I know.
Speaker A:I will not comment it.
Speaker A:Just send me the video.
Speaker A:And that will be your first step.
Speaker A:So you will record yourself and send somebody the video.
Speaker A:You know, like, small steps like that.
Speaker A:And.
Speaker A:And it's like, okay, now you can download this software.
Speaker A:This, this, this, you know, and like, it's so amazing when people surrender and they're not just, like, listening to me, but they're actually enjoying the process.
Speaker A:Yeah, they're enjoying the process because the most important thing is that they are enjoying if they feel pressure, if they feel, you know, that we always need to stretch out, out of our comfort zones.
Speaker A:But I never, never.
Speaker A:I don't believe that People, you know, suffer when they step out of their comfort zone.
Speaker A:It's not about that.
Speaker A:They can stretch, they can, you know, feel a little bit uncomfortable.
Speaker A:But I don't want that people suffer.
Speaker A:And I don't believe that because, you know, that's, that's, that's not effective.
Speaker A:Not even short term, not even long term.
Speaker A:But yeah, I've seen so many incredible transformation.
Speaker A:And people, at first, they have one goal, but when they start following this synchronicities, and it's all about bringing this awareness to themselves, to start loving themselves, to facing their shadows and just working on themselves, not absorbing outside information, this results in synchronicity, new people.
Speaker A:And I'm holding space for all that to happen.
Speaker A:And when they're ready, like, I see, oh, my God, you don't need me anymore.
Speaker A:Now you can fly.
Speaker A:Yeah, now you can fly.
Speaker A:And I always say that you don't need me anymore.
Speaker A:I'm not your, you know, I'm not your crutch.
Speaker A:I was like, you are not here.
Speaker A:I'm not here, you know, to, to support you all the time.
Speaker A:Because you need to, you need to fly now.
Speaker A:And yeah, I say that we have a rocket, like a rocket ship, and when you send the rocket out in the space, there are parts falling off.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And I'm that part.
Speaker A:Yeah, I'm that part that comes back to the earth and they go up, up in the sky.
Speaker B:So, yeah, that's fabulous.
Speaker B:You said several things that I want to go back and think about.
Speaker B:One of them is learning to love yourself.
Speaker B:I think a lot of the shadows, shadow.
Speaker B:A lot of the weight, a lot of the baggage, a lot of the hold back, the anchors to the ground come from the stories that we have about past failure, about past meaning, about difficult or traumatic experiences or struggles that everybody goes through.
Speaker B:And we allowed them to hang on to us like so many rocks and tell the story of unworthiness and incapability and all of the rest.
Speaker B:And you're describing opening a possibility.
Speaker B:And as you talk, I have this seeing of light all the time.
Speaker B:There's light everywhere.
Speaker B:So you see, there's a lightness which allows a person to fly, to float, to rise up, to let go of this baggage, these anchors, these rocks, and to say, you know what?
Speaker B:Maybe I could.
Speaker B:What if I could be a speaker, be a podcaster, be an author, be a person who loved others.
Speaker B:And it's so much of it starts with what you said, which is two things.
Speaker B:Loving yourself and then being willing to surrender to possibility.
Speaker B:You know, there is A possibility.
Speaker B:And no, it may fail.
Speaker B:You may get bashed, whatever.
Speaker B:But the.
Speaker B:The exhilarating joy of having done something new and to try it, pulled by this sort of light and vision, seems to me to be so important.
Speaker B:What do you do to help people?
Speaker B:Start with this thing of self love?
Speaker B:Because I notice that that may be job one or certainly one and a half, you know, for people to shed the idea that somehow they're small, unworthy, not capable, stuck in the cogs, whatever it is, to get to this place of truly experiencing and believing their own divinity, capability, possibility, that kind of stuff.
Speaker B:How do you help me do that?
Speaker A:Yeah, because I'm mostly focused on this.
Speaker A:Career empowerment.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:When people are transitioning their careers, they're stepping into their power, you know, they're stepping into their sole purpose.
Speaker A:So I always say your past experiences do not define you.
Speaker A:What defines you is who you are today, now, and who you believe you can become tomorrow.
Speaker A:Past.
Speaker A:Yeah, it forms us, of course, it has some kind of influence, but it doesn't define us.
Speaker A:And when people really get that, it's like, oh, my God, everything that happened in the past, I made decisions that, you know, I thought that they were the best because I was on that level of awareness.
Speaker A:Now I'm completely on completely different level of awareness.
Speaker A:So now I'm.
Speaker A:I will probably.
Speaker A:Or I would, you know, do different, make different decisions.
Speaker A:And, yeah, it's really, really powerful when people just shed, you know, like, all that past.
Speaker A:Past beliefs.
Speaker A:I know it's.
Speaker A:It's really difficult, and there's, like, so much talk around it.
Speaker A:Oh, yeah, just let go and, you know, subconscious beliefs and blah, blah, blah.
Speaker A:But it's all.
Speaker A:It's.
Speaker A:It's stories.
Speaker A:These are stories because we have been all.
Speaker A:Even now, I'm still.
Speaker A:I know that I am programmed.
Speaker A:You know, I have a lot of programs in me and, you know, conditioning, and we all have.
Speaker A:But all these programs and conditionings, they have absolutely nothing to do with us.
Speaker A:So I just learned recently when we put ourselves.
Speaker A:When I put myself in this state.
Speaker A:So, you know, in.
Speaker A:In one second, just picture that you just arrived to planet Earth and there's no past and there's no future.
Speaker A:It's just present moment.
Speaker A:It's just you.
Speaker A:Okay?
Speaker A:And from that space, from that state of being, you start making decisions or, you know, choices or whatever.
Speaker A:And it's really powerful because they are not attached to any past, like emotions or whatever, because that doesn't exist.
Speaker A:It doesn't exist.
Speaker A:So I'm.
Speaker A:Yeah, this is actually rg.
Speaker A:Spinach.
Speaker A:I really like also listening to what he's saying because it's all about this decluttering, you know, just getting rid of everything that doesn't serve us and, and yeah, and just be in the moment.
Speaker A:And we can be in the moment like this in one second.
Speaker A:And from that state of being, we can really start loving ourselves because we see that there's nothing wrong with us.
Speaker A:We are perfect just the way we are.
Speaker B:I love that.
Speaker B:So let's start with that thought because there's so much feedback that we get that we did this wrong or that wrong.
Speaker B:And so tied really powerfully to this notion of self love, to me is the idea of forgiveness.
Speaker B:And people get mixed up in the idea that forgiveness means absolution or that it means ignoring something that's wrong.
Speaker B:And it doesn't mean any of that.
Speaker B:Forgiveness, the way I think about it.
Speaker B:And you know, I've written a bunch of books and one of them was, guess what?
Speaker B:Forgiveness.
Speaker B:I wrote a book about that.
Speaker B:And all the books I've written have been stuff I needed.
Speaker B:But I think of forgiveness is just no longer allowing events of the past to have power in the present.
Speaker B:And that is a choice I get to make whether I'm forgiving myself of a mistake I made or something stupid or wrong with my current understanding or whether I'm forgiving someone else, some terrible thing they did to me.
Speaker B:That doesn't make it right.
Speaker B:It doesn't excuse it.
Speaker B:It doesn't mean put yourself in jeopardy.
Speaker B:Doesn't mean anything, any of that crap.
Speaker B:It just means I won't let that event continue to limit me today in that innocent state where you're saying, I don't know anything.
Speaker B:I'm just going to do what seems like the very best thing right now in this moment.
Speaker B:Do you find forgiveness to be a big part of the liberation that you bring to people?
Speaker A:Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker A:And you know, sometimes, most of the times I really trigger people with what I say and I just say, hey, take bits and pieces that you resonate with and leave the rest.
Speaker A:Ignore the rest.
Speaker A:But what I know, not that I believe, but what I know is that our emotions, how we feel, it's our responsibility.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Nobody else is responsible for how we feel.
Speaker A:So if we carry, you know, this very heavy emotions and that resentment and, you know, like anger or sadness or whatever, it's like, hey, this is ours.
Speaker A:We.
Speaker A:We have to deal with this.
Speaker A:And yeah, when we, when we forgive, first of all, it's like forgive ourselves.
Speaker A:Oh, my God.
Speaker A:I was torturing Myself for so long.
Speaker A:For so long.
Speaker A:That person.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:You know, what happened.
Speaker A:I'm not minimizing the traumatic experiences.
Speaker A:Not even close.
Speaker A:But it's so liberating.
Speaker A:It's so liberating when we again, reframe the situation, reframe how we feel like what is happening at the moment.
Speaker A:And you know, on the other side of forgiveness, on the other side of this, heavy emotions are usually the biggest gifts.
Speaker A:And.
Speaker A:And I'm not just saying that, you know, just because it sounds nice, but I can say it based on my own personal experiences, because I had a lot of situation that, you know, I had to forgive myself for feeling certain way, you know, in relationship with other people.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:Forgiving ourselves.
Speaker B:Forgiving ourselves.
Speaker B:For judging ourselves.
Speaker B:I mean, there's so much judgment.
Speaker B:I was wrong.
Speaker B:I was stupid.
Speaker B:I shouldn't have done that.
Speaker B:There's two layers.
Speaker B:One is the actual thing, and two is all the judgment that we heap on ourselves or others for having behaved in some way that we judge to be wrong.
Speaker B:So here's an interesting question.
Speaker B:You had a spiritual awakening.
Speaker B:Different paths, different things happened.
Speaker B:It brought you to a place of realizing the expansive possibility of creating life like you want it.
Speaker B:That that's a series of experiments and trial and error.
Speaker B:And some things work and some don't.
Speaker B:And so you're able to bring yourself through that work and through the help of others and the stuff you did to a place of liberation and creativity.
Speaker B:You could have stopped.
Speaker B:You could have said, wow, I got this solved for me.
Speaker B:I'm happy.
Speaker B:I'm living peace and joy and prosperity and coolness and whatever.
Speaker B:And you didn't.
Speaker B:You said, yeah, I did.
Speaker B:And now I'm having this yearning, this irrepressible earn yearning rise up in me to help other people.
Speaker B:My neighbor, my friend, my co worker, somebody I hated last week experienced the same thing.
Speaker B:Talk a little bit about why it is that when we go through these transformative experiences, there seems to rise up at the same time this, this powerful urge to love, to serve, and to bless others.
Speaker B:Why do you think that happens?
Speaker A:Yeah, that's in our essence.
Speaker A:That's a really good question because, you know, I'm coming from this recruitment background and when I was talking to people, hey, you know, what do you want to do?
Speaker A:A lot of people, they just said to me, anya, I just want to help people.
Speaker A:I just want to support people.
Speaker A:Even though, like they were nine to five jobs, you know, in corporate jobs, but they wanted to have meaning.
Speaker A:They wanted to feel, you know, not useful, but meaningful.
Speaker A:And I mean now at this point it's, it's not like all, you know, love and light and prosperity because we are all on a journey.
Speaker A:But I came to the point where I can really support people, you know, that I am who I am.
Speaker A:I don't wear masks.
Speaker A:Yeah, I really, I don't care.
Speaker A:I love people, but I don't care what people think.
Speaker A:I have my good, my intentions are pure, My intentions are good.
Speaker A:But I also see a lot of bullshit, right?
Speaker A:I also, I also see a lot of bullshit and I'm calling bullshit out.
Speaker A:I'm calling it, I'm saying, because I'm not going to be quiet.
Speaker A:And yeah, I came to the point that I'm playing by my own rules.
Speaker A:We are still in a matrix, you know, I still like I have a car, I have to pay for, you know, petrol or like I'm paying bills and all that kind of stuff.
Speaker A:And I don't have financial security that I had when I had, you know, nine to five job or like corporate job.
Speaker A:But that doesn't mean that I'm not happy because I am.
Speaker A:Because every day when I wake up it's like, oh my God.
Speaker A:And I meeting people like you and similar people that we are on a similar mission, it's like oh my God, I'm so grateful, I'm so grateful that I'm here in this time on planet Earth and I can support, I can co create this amazing, amazing, you know, mission of yeah, creating new world, new new, new reality.
Speaker A:So it's not only about me but I'm, you know, sharing this because I see myself, I.
Speaker A:People know me as the energy activator.
Speaker A:So I really, really like to share my energy, what I do, what I create and what I am.
Speaker B:Yeah, that's fabulous.
Speaker B:So I'm going to just another little tangent here.
Speaker B:The sharing of this energy and the calling that you have to do that.
Speaker B:So I just want to be black and white.
Speaker B:So what you're saying is G, you, me, you all listening you, no matter where you are right now, no matter what you've been through before, you have the ability to start today.
Speaker B:To make incremental gradual changes to capture a big vision that is the truth of your essence.
Speaker B:And you can move forward at whatever pace makes sense to create a world that lines up with your deepest yearning, your deepest gifts, your deepest talents.
Speaker B:And that means you can have and claim a life purpose, most of which is, gee, I like to help people because that's the buzzword we say.
Speaker B:But it means also you can Make a living.
Speaker B:You can make money and the people gladly give you because you're providing this free, I don't mean free cost, but this beautiful, empowering, uplifting, joyful energy and real solutions, real solutions about how to deal with shadow work and old beliefs and limiting baggage that you're carrying around and opening the vision to possibilities.
Speaker B:And I know we use all these woo woo words, but there's a million ways that you or I or you guys listening can create vision.
Speaker B:Value.
Speaker B:Money follows value.
Speaker B:Money's actually easier to make now than it's ever been.
Speaker B:And it's just finding the courage.
Speaker B:So you're telling me and our listeners that you can do that no matter where you are, no matter what's gone on before, you can start today and move in that direction.
Speaker B:Have I got that right?
Speaker A:Absolutely.
Speaker A:Absolutely.
Speaker A:But we need to know something, that we are not here to do this by ourselves.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Alone we cannot become.
Speaker A:I mean, we are not here to become victims and like slaves of our own creations.
Speaker A:That's why connection to other people and you know, like this gathering and co creating is very, very, very important.
Speaker A:And also I would like to mention one more thing.
Speaker A:So if you know everybody, like who's listening now, they can look, you know, their hands, like you, Kellen, can also look at your hand.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Like, let's look at our hand and let, let's look at our finger.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Fin.
Speaker A:Fingerprint.
Speaker A:You have unique fingerprint.
Speaker A:I have unique fingerprint.
Speaker A:Every single person that is listening now, they have unique fingerprint.
Speaker A:Why to leave a unique imprint in this world.
Speaker A:This is how I see it and how, and what that imprint is, they can decide.
Speaker A:And I'm here to guide them through this because yeah, I have certain expertise, knowledge or wisdom or whatever.
Speaker A:But most importantly is that I also see, I kind of see how can I express myself.
Speaker A:Like potential realities.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Based on their gifts.
Speaker A:Based, based on their abilities.
Speaker A:And I see potential realities, what they can do and how they can do it.
Speaker A:And it's like, hey, these are opportunities that I see now.
Speaker A:Where do you want to go?
Speaker A:Yeah, but don't, don't hold, hold it.
Speaker A:Don't hold on to that.
Speaker A:But these are like opportunities where you can start walking this path and, and people love that because, you know, usually it's very, very difficult to, to.
Speaker A:Yeah, to, to start to, to make that first step.
Speaker A:But when they have realization that they are here to do something unique, and I'm not saying that they are very special because of that.
Speaker A:They are better than anyone else.
Speaker A:They.
Speaker A:No, I'm not saying that.
Speaker A:It's just like unique.
Speaker A:With their unique personality, with their unique past experiences, with their unique story, with their unique abilities, you know, skills, they can create their own unique story.
Speaker B:They can.
Speaker B:And I always say that the most important gift that you, Anya or Kellen or anybody else has the most powerful gift.
Speaker B:And that means to make the biggest difference, most money and have the most fun impact income and most fun.
Speaker B:You know what it is?
Speaker B:It is the story of your own becoming exactly the story of your own.
Speaker A:Yeah, I remember remembering.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah, that is what you've got.
Speaker B:And everything else you teach, everything else you share is that thing over there that you know about, but it's not the essence of the truth.
Speaker B:So if people want to follow you or find out more or connect with you or talk to you, what do they do?
Speaker B:Where do they go?
Speaker A:Yeah, my main platform is LinkedIn.
Speaker A:So they can find me on Anya Gibert, free spirit on LinkedIn or free spirithc.com.
Speaker A:that's my, that's my official website.
Speaker A:I'm also on YouTube, on Instagram and Facebook, wherever.
Speaker A:They will find me and, you know, they will give me a nudge or something, I will definitely respond.
Speaker A:And yeah, I would just like to, you know, tell that it's possible.
Speaker A:It is possible.
Speaker A:But we're not here to do anything by ourselves because we are all pieces of the puzzle.
Speaker A:How I see it, you know, we have this huge table.
Speaker A:We are bringing our skills, our stories, our, I don't know, you know, experiences to the table.
Speaker A:And then we mix together and we create magic together.
Speaker A:And yeah, I can help individuals or even groups, you know, in certain stages.
Speaker A:Absolutely.
Speaker A:But then when I was like, hey, you don't need me anymore, then, you know, they are ready for new, like Kellen, you know, they can come from me, they can come to you.
Speaker A:But it's all about that.
Speaker A:Yeah, it's all about that as a journey.
Speaker B:I love what you're sharing and what you've shared.
Speaker B:And I always say this or something like it.
Speaker B:Listeners, look, you can hear this as a bunch of airy fairy woo woo stuff.
Speaker B:And I don't care if you own a hardcore nuts and bolts business.
Speaker B:The truth is, if you create your business and your life from a place of vision and freedom and taking off the limitations, seeing past those possibilities, whatever you're doing will grow exponentially and it will be more fun and it will be more rewarding and you'll help more people and you'll have a heck of a good time.
Speaker B:I know it.
Speaker B:I live that every Day.
Speaker B:Anya demonstrates that.
Speaker B:Anya, I want to thank you for coming and sharing your energy and your love and your invitation with us today.
Speaker A:Thank you.
Speaker A:Thank you for your invitation.
Speaker A:It was very, very cool to talk to you.
Speaker A:It's quite late here, but I'm like, yeah, super, super excited about this chat.
Speaker A:And, yeah, I hope that, you know, people that they were listening today, they got bits and pieces that will help them, you know, transform them, their life in any way.
Speaker A:Because what we were saying today is really powerful.
Speaker A:It just, yeah, they just have to listen with their heart, not only with their ears or their mind.
Speaker B:Thank you.
Speaker B:So I want to encourage all of you to listen again because what she just said there in conclusion is the real deal.
Speaker B:Nothing's going to happen unless you do something.
Speaker B:Nothing's going to happen unless you open your heart and explore the possibility.
Speaker B:And you can say, yeah, it won't work for me.
Speaker B:And you're right, it won't.
Speaker B:But if you go in there and you say, you know what, maybe I could do this, I can make you a promise.
Speaker B:If you get a hold of her and let her talk to you, let her listen to your heart and let her open that vision for you, you.
Speaker B:So you can see what is possible for you, so you can move forward and create your ultimate life right here, right now.
Speaker B:Your opportunity for massive growth is right in front of you.
Speaker B:Every episode gives you practical tips and practices that will change everything.
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Speaker A:Sam.
